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	<title>Comments on: Is it Time to do a Templeton?</title>
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		<title>By: A. N. Other</title>
		<link>http://www.mebanefaber.com/2009/03/08/is-it-time-to-do-a-templeton/comment-page-1/#comment-4288</link>
		<dc:creator>A. N. Other</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran the numbers on this list from today&#039;s prices. Assuming no problems with liquidity and transactions costs (probably not a realistic assumption), the basket returned 324% from March 9 opening prices to Friday&#039;s closing prices. Only 2 stocks lost money. Several returned 500%+ and one returned 1342%. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looks like a great strategy for the later stages of bear markets, the main problem is how to avoid being too early. For example, if you had done this strategy on Oct 22 (when the S&amp;P fell below 900 and was in clear panic mode), you would have made a return through April 9th of a mere 5.37%, and you would have had a horrendous drawdown from Nov 08 through March 09.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One could try averaging in over say 6 months, once the initial panic becomes obvious, as a systematic entry plan. But you could get well and truly slaughtered in a 2000-2003 extended bear (late September 2001 would be the time when bottom-fishers would enter on the clear panic selling - 18 months before the eventual low), let alone 1929-32. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Overall this is a great strategy IF one can identify near the low of the bear market. But if you are more than a couple of months early, it&#039;s a very dangerous strategy. Given that one can just go long the S&amp;P on 3-4x leverage, or long a bunch of LEAPS, if one has the ability to time the low to within 1-2 months, I am not sure how this strategy improves things. I would prefer to use something based on valuation, rather than just a naive filter. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Basically it looks great but it relies on you being able to pick the bottom, just like almost every other timing-based system for buying at the end of a bear market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran the numbers on this list from today&#39;s prices. Assuming no problems with liquidity and transactions costs (probably not a realistic assumption), the basket returned 324% from March 9 opening prices to Friday&#39;s closing prices. Only 2 stocks lost money. Several returned 500%+ and one returned 1342%. </p>
<p>Looks like a great strategy for the later stages of bear markets, the main problem is how to avoid being too early. For example, if you had done this strategy on Oct 22 (when the S&#038;P fell below 900 and was in clear panic mode), you would have made a return through April 9th of a mere 5.37%, and you would have had a horrendous drawdown from Nov 08 through March 09.</p>
<p>One could try averaging in over say 6 months, once the initial panic becomes obvious, as a systematic entry plan. But you could get well and truly slaughtered in a 2000-2003 extended bear (late September 2001 would be the time when bottom-fishers would enter on the clear panic selling &#8211; 18 months before the eventual low), let alone 1929-32. </p>
<p>Overall this is a great strategy IF one can identify near the low of the bear market. But if you are more than a couple of months early, it&#39;s a very dangerous strategy. Given that one can just go long the S&#038;P on 3-4x leverage, or long a bunch of LEAPS, if one has the ability to time the low to within 1-2 months, I am not sure how this strategy improves things. I would prefer to use something based on valuation, rather than just a naive filter. </p>
<p>Basically it looks great but it relies on you being able to pick the bottom, just like almost every other timing-based system for buying at the end of a bear market.</p>
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		<title>By: A. N. Other</title>
		<link>http://www.mebanefaber.com/2009/03/08/is-it-time-to-do-a-templeton/comment-page-1/#comment-3913</link>
		<dc:creator>A. N. Other</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran the numbers on this list from today&#039;s prices. Assuming no problems with liquidity and transactions costs (probably not a realistic assumption), the basket returned 324% from March 9 opening prices to Friday&#039;s closing prices. Only 2 stocks lost money. Several returned 500%+ and one returned 1342%. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looks like a great strategy for the later stages of bear markets, the main problem is how to avoid being too early. For example, if you had done this strategy on Oct 22 (when the S&amp;P fell below 900 and was in clear panic mode), you would have made a return through April 9th of a mere 5.37%, and you would have had a horrendous drawdown from Nov 08 through March 09.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One could try averaging in over say 6 months, once the initial panic becomes obvious, as a systematic entry plan. But you could get well and truly slaughtered in a 2000-2003 extended bear (late September 2001 would be the time when bottom-fishers would enter on the clear panic selling - 18 months before the eventual low), let alone 1929-32. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Overall this is a great strategy IF one can identify near the low of the bear market. But if you are more than a couple of months early, it&#039;s a very dangerous strategy. Given that one can just go long the S&amp;P on 3-4x leverage, or long a bunch of LEAPS, if one has the ability to time the low to within 1-2 months, I am not sure how this strategy improves things. I would prefer to use something based on valuation, rather than just a naive filter. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Basically it looks great but it relies on you being able to pick the bottom, just like almost every other timing-based system for buying at the end of a bear market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran the numbers on this list from today&#39;s prices. Assuming no problems with liquidity and transactions costs (probably not a realistic assumption), the basket returned 324% from March 9 opening prices to Friday&#39;s closing prices. Only 2 stocks lost money. Several returned 500%+ and one returned 1342%. </p>
<p>Looks like a great strategy for the later stages of bear markets, the main problem is how to avoid being too early. For example, if you had done this strategy on Oct 22 (when the S&#038;P fell below 900 and was in clear panic mode), you would have made a return through April 9th of a mere 5.37%, and you would have had a horrendous drawdown from Nov 08 through March 09.</p>
<p>One could try averaging in over say 6 months, once the initial panic becomes obvious, as a systematic entry plan. But you could get well and truly slaughtered in a 2000-2003 extended bear (late September 2001 would be the time when bottom-fishers would enter on the clear panic selling &#8211; 18 months before the eventual low), let alone 1929-32. </p>
<p>Overall this is a great strategy IF one can identify near the low of the bear market. But if you are more than a couple of months early, it&#39;s a very dangerous strategy. Given that one can just go long the S&#038;P on 3-4x leverage, or long a bunch of LEAPS, if one has the ability to time the low to within 1-2 months, I am not sure how this strategy improves things. I would prefer to use something based on valuation, rather than just a naive filter. </p>
<p>Basically it looks great but it relies on you being able to pick the bottom, just like almost every other timing-based system for buying at the end of a bear market.</p>
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		<title>By: petestrand</title>
		<link>http://www.mebanefaber.com/2009/03/08/is-it-time-to-do-a-templeton/comment-page-1/#comment-3015</link>
		<dc:creator>petestrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF BOUGHT THE LIST IN MARCH, WHAT WOULD BE GAIN/LOSS NOW?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF BOUGHT THE LIST IN MARCH, WHAT WOULD BE GAIN/LOSS NOW?</p>
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		<title>By: j&#39;adoube</title>
		<link>http://www.mebanefaber.com/2009/03/08/is-it-time-to-do-a-templeton/comment-page-1/#comment-2271</link>
		<dc:creator>j&#39;adoube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On today&#039;s rocketship move (+6.37% on the S&amp;P), the above list underperformed. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meanwhile, Berkshire B was up 19%. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So maybe you buy only the stocks above $1,000 per share . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On today&#39;s rocketship move (+6.37% on the S&#038;P), the above list underperformed. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Berkshire B was up 19%. </p>
<p>So maybe you buy only the stocks above $1,000 per share . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: guru</title>
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		<dc:creator>guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same though back in November and wrote about it (I called them &quot;perpetual call options&quot;) in my blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/stockchartist-20081115&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/stockchartist-20081115&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same though back in November and wrote about it (I called them &#8220;perpetual call options&#8221;) in my blog <a href="http://tinyurl.com/stockchartist-20081115" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/stockchartist-20081115</a></p>
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		<title>By: j&#39;adoube</title>
		<link>http://www.mebanefaber.com/2009/03/08/is-it-time-to-do-a-templeton/comment-page-1/#comment-2267</link>
		<dc:creator>j&#39;adoube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two consecutive posts featuring the words &quot;puking&quot; and &quot;nauseating&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A bear market rally cannot be too far off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two consecutive posts featuring the words &#8220;puking&#8221; and &#8220;nauseating&#8221;.</p>
<p>A bear market rally cannot be too far off.</p>
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